the Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 License.
the Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 License.
Comparing Fourier Transform and Direct Wave Fitting in NMR FID Data Analysis
Abstract. This report compares various simulation and data analysis methods for free induction decay (FID) signals in Nuclear Magnetic Resonance (NMR) Spectroscopy. The methods discussed include discrete fast Fourier transformation (FFT), least squares fitting (LSF), short-time Fourier transformation (STFT), and wavelet transformation. NMR is a widely used technique for elucidating the chemical composition and structure of molecules. It measures the nuclear magnetic spin frequencies of different atoms in a sample, producing signals that are waves over the time domain. This report employs Gaussian wave frequency simulations to model the interference and dephasing among adjacent frequencies of each Gaussian chemical shift. Typically, FIDs are analysed using the FFT algorithm, although least squares fitting and machine learning algorithms are also employed. The simulations indicate that STFT can generate spectrograms that are useful for further neural network training, while LSF is effective in processing signals around or even below one wave cycle.
- Preprint
(1331 KB) - Metadata XML
- BibTeX
- EndNote
Status: open (until 29 Jun 2026)
- RC1: 'Comment on mr-2026-8', Anonymous Referee #1, 17 Jun 2026 reply
-
RC2: 'Comment on mr-2026-8', Anonymous Referee #2, 18 Jun 2026
reply
This reviewer is unable to discern any novel results in this manuscript. Furthermore, the manuscript is highly misleading and fails to grasp the important distinctions among methods. The discussion of "least squares" methods implies they are a separate class from the discrete Fourier transform or the discrete wavelet transform. The discrete Fourier transform is a "least squares" solution to the problem of expanding a time series in a discrete Fourier basis. There happens to be a particularly efficient method for computing the coefficients, and there is a unique solution, because the Fourier basis is orthogonal. The same holds for the discrete wavelet transform -- it is a least-squares solution to an expansion in an orthogonal wavelet basis. Least squares solutions using other models -- for example exponentially decaying sinusoids -- don't have such efficient methods for computing the coefficients, nor do they typically have a unique solution without some additional regularization criterion (as exponentially decaying sinusoids form an "over complete" basis). It's noteworthy that the orthogonality of wavelet bases precludes perfectly symmetric wavelets (although nearly-symmetric symlets have been developed) which makes them less than ideal for fitting symmetric NMR lineshapes. All of these observations are reflected in more than five decades of results on signal processing of time series.
Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/mr-2026-8-RC2
Model code and software
jcNMR Jixin Chen https://github.com/nkchenjx/jcNMR
Viewed
| HTML | XML | Total | BibTeX | EndNote | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 52 | 21 | 9 | 82 | 4 | 6 |
- HTML: 52
- PDF: 21
- XML: 9
- Total: 82
- BibTeX: 4
- EndNote: 6
Viewed (geographical distribution)
| Country | # | Views | % |
|---|
| Total: | 0 |
| HTML: | 0 |
| PDF: | 0 |
| XML: | 0 |
- 1
The author presents results of applying Fourier and other reconstruction and fitting methods suggested as suitable for time domain data with non-stationary signals. The author emphasizes use of their previously-published “JCFit” approach to fit time domain data. Only a limited amount of simulated data is evaluated, using modest numbers of points (~2028) and a small number of signals.
There are useful ideas in this work, and also enthusiastic scholarship, and the manuscript deserves refinement. That said, in its current form, it seemed hard to find a coherent story or an actionable conclusion. Here is some discussion that could lead to a stronger manuscript: