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A portable NMR platform with arbitrary phase control and temperature compensation
Qing Yang
Jianyu Zhao
Frederik Dreyer
Daniel Krüger
Jens Anders
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- Final revised paper (published on 16 May 2022)
- Preprint (discussion started on 22 Feb 2022)
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RC1: 'Comment on mr-2022-4', Anonymous Referee #1, 03 Mar 2022
The manuscript describes the digital and analog electronics of a portable NMR spectrometer. It consists of a non-commercially available CMOS integrated circuit designed by the authors (TX/RX electronics with RF PA, RF LNA, mixers, IF amplifier, PLL) and of commercially available electronics (DDS chips, multifunction analog/digital board, switches, …). The operation of the spectrometer is demonstrated with 1H NMR experiments at 62 MHz and 15 MHz using home-made NMR probes consisting of 0.4 and 2 mm diameter solenoidal coils tuned (but not impedance matched) with capacitors. Liquid samples are placed in 0.3 and 1.3 mm outer diameter glass capillary, which tightly fit inside the solenoidal coils.
The most original contribution of this work is the detailed description of a TX/RX phase synchronization method and of a field drift correction method. Of course, the TX/RX phase synchronization and the field drift are problems which are “solved” in all commercially available NMR spectrometers. However, the merit of this manuscript lies in the fact that the method chosen and the hardware required to solve these problems are described in detail and, hence, can be useful to other groups which are working at the development of compact/portable NMR spectrometers. For this reason, I think that the manuscript deserve to be published.
Suggestions for the improvement of the manuscript:
LINE 23: Typo: “high field homogeneity” instead of “high filed homogeneity”
LINE 35: Typo: “Anders and Boero, 2008” instead of “Anders and Chiaramonte, 2008” (Chiaramonte is not author of that conference paper). Correct also LINE 350.
LINE 47: At this point in the manuscript, it is not entirely clear the meaning of “phase-coherent detection of the NMR signal at non-zero IF”. A non-zero IF can be produced also with F_LO=F_TX but different from F_LARMOR. In this case there are no phase-coherence issues. Later in the manuscript (LINE 75) it is clear that “non-zero IF” means F_LO different from F_TX, which indeed can produce phase-coherence issues. It is not essential, but maybe I would try to make this clear already at this point of the manuscript.
LINE 71 (footnote): “Ignoring the inhomogeneity factor”. I guess the authors refer to the B1 inhomogeneity which would than produce a non-homogeneous flip angle in the sample (and, in particular, a flip angle which is not 90° everywhere in the sample). It is almost obvious but I would be more clear.
LINE 97: In the given reference (Anders et al., 2010) the impact of gain and phase mismatch on the NMR spectra distortions is not discussed/shown in details. I would suggest to search for references where this issue is discussed/shown more in details.
LINE 107: I would write “NdFeB permanent magnet” instead of “Neodymium permanent magnet”. I would also add the value of its typical temperature coefficient (about 0.1%/K at room temperature).
LINE 132: If the scaling factor is selectable from 0.5 to 64, is it correct that the output frequency is between 5.7 MHz and 770 MHz?
LINE 138: I would specifically mention the gain of the LNA and the gain of the mixer (even if it is already mentioned the total RX gain and the gain of the VGA and the gain of the external filter).
LINE 142: I would mention which specific 130 nm BiCMOS technology has been used for the integrated circuit.
LINE 165: Figure 3b: I would add a scale bar (even if the dimensions are given in the caption).
LINE 182: Typo (I guess): “…within a few microseconds” instead of “….with a few microseconds”
LINE 230: Figure 5: I would add a scale bar (even if the coil dimensions are given in the text).
LINE 232: It would be nice to show a picture of the custom made 0.36 T magnet and give some details of it.
LINE 233: I would specify on which volume you have an homogeneity of 20 ppm (I guess it is on the sample volume).
LINE 257: I would specify the repetition time (i.e., the time distance between two consecutive measurements). At first sight, I would have performed many more consecutive measurements than 100. Do you expect any significant difference if 1000, 10000, or more measurements are taken? Which is the origin of the observed standard deviation of the phase? Is it just due to noise present in the signal which set a limit in the standard deviation of the phase or it is larger and due to a residual phase syncronization problem (it is probably possible to run a simple simulation to clarify this point)?
LINE 261: Table 1: It is not clear to me why it is relevant to show also the mean value of the phase. I would specify the number of measurements (10, I guess from the text) and the repetition time. As for the previous case, I would have performed many more consecutive measurements than 10. Do you expect any significant difference if 100, 1000, 10000, or more measurements are taken?
LINE 287: Although it might be well known for most of the NMR specialists, I would explain in some more details why “…the predefined pulse length is no longer correct, resulting in distorted CPMG signals”.
LINE 295: Figure 9. I would specify the sample used for this measurement. Is it again sunflower oil? T2 is slightly shorter (77 ms) than the one in Figure 8 for sunflower oil (85 ms). As addition to Figure 9a, I would suggest also to add the CPMG “decay” obtained with the temperature induced field drift compensation scheme.
LINE 296: It is not clear to me if and why the measurements with heterogeneous samples are relevant to qualify the phase-synchronization and field-correction approach proposed in this paper. Of course, these are additional nice measurements that can be included in the article but their “relevance” for the main messages of the paper is not fully clear to me.
LINE 308: Table II: I wonder if it make sense (and it is correct in metrology terms) to specify the T2 and T1 values with so many significant digits (I guess not but I’m not sure).
LINE 310: Figure 10: I would mention the Cu concentration in the figure caption or directly in the figure (even if these number are given in the text).
LINE 325: I would add a few citations to the articles corresponding to “….our EPR-on-a-chip transceivers”.
"Aesthetic" comment: for my personal taste, there is an excessive use of footnotes. I would move all current footnotes (or the large majority of them) in the main text.
Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/mr-2022-4-RC1 -
CC1: 'Reply on RC1', Jens Anders, 03 Mar 2022
Dear reviewer,
Thank you very much for your detailed and thoughtful comments on our manuscript. We agree with all of your comments and suggestions and will address them in a revised version of the manuscript.
Best wishes,
Jens Anders
Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/mr-2022-4-CC1 -
CC2: 'Reply on RC1', Jens Anders, 03 Mar 2022
Dear reviewer,
Thank you very much for your detailed and thoughtful comments on our manuscript. We agree with all of your comments and suggestions and will address them in a revised version of the manuscript.
Best wishes,
Jens Anders
Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/mr-2022-4-CC2 -
AC1: 'Comment on mr-2022-4', Qing Yang, 31 Mar 2022
Reply from the authors
Dear Editor, dear reviewers,
We would like to thank you for consideration of our manuscript for publication in Magnetic Resonance and the overall positive evaluation of our work. The detailed and insightful comments from all reviewers will help us to further improve the manuscript. Please find our point-to-point responses to individual comments below.
With best regards,
Qing Yang
On behalf of all co-authors
RC1
General comments: The manuscript describes the digital and analog electronics of a portable NMR spectrometer. It consists of a non-commercially available CMOS integrated circuit designed by the authors (TX/RX electronics with RF PA, RF LNA, mixers, IF amplifier, PLL) and of commercially available electronics (DDS chips, multifunction analog/digital board, switches, …). The operation of the spectrometer is demonstrated with 1H NMR experiments at 62 MHz and 15 MHz using home-made NMR probes consisting of 0.4 and 2 mm diameter solenoidal coils tuned (but not impedance matched) with capacitors. Liquid samples are placed in 0.3 and 1.3 mm outer diameter glass capillary, which tightly fit inside the solenoidal coils.
The most original contribution of this work is the detailed description of a TX/RX phase synchronization method and of a field drift correction method. Of course, the TX/RX phase synchronization and the field drift are problems which are “solved” in all commercially available NMR spectrometers. However, the merit of this manuscript lies in the fact that the method chosen and the hardware required to solve these problems are described in detail and, hence, can be useful to other groups which are working at the development of compact/portable NMR spectrometers. For this reason, I think that the manuscript deserves to be published.
We would like to thank the reviewer for his detailed and overall positive review of our manuscript.
Specific comments:
LINE 23: Typo: “high field homogeneity” instead of “high filed homogeneity”
Thank you for bringing this mistake to our attention. We will correct it in the revised version of the manuscript.
LINE 35: Typo: “Anders and Boero, 2008” instead of “Anders and Chiaramonte, 2008” (Chiaramonte is not author of that conference paper). Correct also LINE 350.
Thank you for bringing this mistake to our attention. We will correct it in the revised version of the manuscript.
LINE 47: At this point in the manuscript, it is not entirely clear the meaning of “phase-coherent detection of the NMR signal at non-zero IF”. A non-zero IF can be produced also with F_LO=F_TX but different from F_LARMOR. In this case there are no phase-coherence issues. Later in the manuscript (LINE 75) it is clear that “non-zero IF” means F_LO different from F_TX, which indeed can produce phase-coherence issues. It is not essential, but maybe I would try to make this clear already at this point of the manuscript.
We agree with the reviewer’s opinion and will modify this sentence accordingly. More specifically, we will clarify that the phase-coherence issues we refer to are produced by the fact that FLO is different from FTX.
LINE 71 (footnote): “Ignoring the inhomogeneity factor”. I guess the authors refer to the B1 inhomogeneity which would than produce a non-homogeneous flip angle in the sample (and, in particular, a flip angle which is not 90° everywhere in the sample). It is almost obvious but I would be more clear.
We will revise the manuscript by specifically stating that the inhomogeneity factor is caused by the B1 inhomogeneity and also the B0 inhomogeneity.
LINE 97: In the given reference (Anders et al., 2010) the impact of gain and phase mismatch on the NMR spectra distortions is not discussed/shown in details. I would suggest to search for references where this issue is discussed/shown more in details.
Thank you for bringing this mistake to your attention:
In the revised manuscript, we will use the following reference instead:
Rahman, A.-u.-., Iqbal., C. M., and Atia-tul, W.: Solving problems with NMR spectroscopy, Elsevier Academic Press, United Kingdom; San Diego, CA2016a.
In section 2.5 of this reference, there is a detailed discussion about how phase cycling can eliminate the imbalance between two channels.
LINE 107: I would write “NdFeB permanent magnet” instead of “Neodymium permanent magnet”. I would also add the value of its typical temperature coefficient (about 0.1%/K at room temperature).
We are happy to use the term “NdFeB permanent magnet” in the revised manuscript. In line 60 of the manuscript, we have mentioned the temperature coefficients of two common magnet materials.
LINE 132: If the scaling factor is selectable from 0.5 to 64, is it correct that the output frequency is between 5.7 MHz and 770 MHz?
This part was unfortunately not well explained in the original version of the manuscript. In fact, a scaling factor of 0.5 refers to the case where an off-chip LO is used instead of the on-chip PLL. This off-chip LO is divided by two to produce the required quadrature signals. In this case, the PA output frequency can in fact go down to DC. However, the usable (TX and RX) output operating frequency range of our platform is limited between 5MHz and 770MHz, where the lower limit is defined by an AC coupling capacitor in the receiver (between the LNA and the mixer.
LINE 138: I would specifically mention the gain of the LNA and the gain of the mixer (even if it is already mentioned the total RX gain and the gain of the VGA and the gain of the external filter).
Thank you for your comment. We will revise the manuscript accordingly.
LINE 142: I would mention which specific 130 nm BiCMOS technology has been used for the integrated circuit.
Thank you for your comment. We will revise the manuscript accordingly.
LINE 165: Figure 3b: I would add a scale bar (even if the dimensions are given in the caption).
Thank you for your comment. We will add the requested scale bar.
LINE 182: Typo (I guess): “…within a few microseconds” instead of “….with a few microseconds”
Thank you for your comment. We will correct this mistake.
LINE 230: Figure 5: I would add a scale bar (even if the coil dimensions are given in the text).
Thank you for your comment. We will add the requested scale bar.
LINE 232: It would be nice to show a picture of the custom made 0.36 T magnet and give some details of it.
Thank you for your comment. We will provide a more detailed description of the magnet.
LINE 233: I would specify on which volume you have an homogeneity of 20 ppm (I guess it is on the sample volume).
Thank you for your comment. The homogeneity is indeed calculated according to the signal bandwidth over the sample volume. We will state this more clearly in the revised manuscript.
LINE 257: I would specify the repetition time (i.e., the time distance between two consecutive measurements). At first sight, I would have performed many more consecutive measurements than 100. Do you expect any significant difference if 1000, 10000, or more measurements are taken? Which is the origin of the observed standard deviation of the phase? Is it just due to noise present in the signal which set a limit in the standard deviation of the phase or it is larger and due to a residual phase syncronization problem (it is probably possible to run a simple simulation to clarify this point)?
We thank the reviewer for raising this important question. The repetition time used was 1.5 s, which is more than five times of T1, to allow the magnetization to rebuild completely before the next scan. We also performed experiments with a larger number of consecutive measurements with correspondingly larger field/frequency shifts.
In all experiments shown in the manuscript, we synchronized the RX phase to TX phase at the beginning of the pulse, leading to a phase of the NMR signal, which, for a fixed excitation pulse length, varies with the TX frequency (for a fixed pulse length, the phase at the end of the pulse is different for different TX frequencies). We used the rising edge to give the on-chip PLL time to settle to the RX phase defined by DDS2. When using dead times after the pulse that are longer than the PLL settling time, we can also synchronize TX and RX phase at the falling edge of the pulse, removing the problem of phase uncertainty with changes in the TX frequency, allowing for larger number of averages. In the revised version of the manuscript, we will also include these measurements.
LINE 261: Table 1: It is not clear to me why it is relevant to show also the mean value of the phase. I would specify the number of measurements (10, I guess from the text) and the repetition time. As for the previous case, I would have performed many more consecutive measurements than 10. Do you expect any significant difference if 100, 1000, 10000, or more measurements are taken?
Thank you for your comment. We will remove the mean value from the table. Concerning the expectations for a larger number of measurements, please refer to our answer to your previous question.
LINE 287: Although it might be well known for most of the NMR specialists, I would explain in some more details why “…the predefined pulse length is no longer correct, resulting in distorted CPMG signals”.
Thank you for your comment. We will revise the manuscript accordingly.
LINE 295: Figure 9. I would specify the sample used for this measurement. Is it again sunflower oil? T2 is slightly shorter (77 ms) than the one in Figure 8 for sunflower oil (85 ms). As addition to Figure 9a, I would suggest also to add the CPMG “decay” obtained with the temperature induced field drift compensation scheme.
Thank you for your comment. The sample is the same sunflower oil. However, the experiments were conducted with almost one month in between, and the sample was not protected from light. We will therefore rerun both experiments with fresh sunflower oil and show these data in the revised version of the manuscript. In Fig. 9a, the correct attenuation line is obtained based on the temperature compensation scheme. We will modify the manuscript accordingly.
LINE 296: It is not clear to me if and why the measurements with heterogeneous samples are relevant to qualify the phase-synchronization and field-correction approach proposed in this paper. Of course, these are additional nice measurements that can be included in the article but their “relevance” for the main messages of the paper is not fully clear to me.
Thank you for your comment. We merely used the measurements on the heterogeneous samples as an example for 2D relaxation measurements since the duration of such experiments is typically much longer and a field-correct approach is almost mandatory.
LINE 308: Table II: I wonder if it make sense (and it is correct in metrology terms) to specify the T2 and T1 values with so many significant digits (I guess not but I’m not sure).
Thank you for your comment. We will revise the manuscript by stating only statistically relevant information (no digits after the decimal dot).
LINE 310: Figure 10: I would mention the Cu concentration in the figure caption or directly in the figure (even if these number are given in the text).
Thank you for this suggestion. We will add the Cu concentration in the figure caption.
LINE 325: I would add a few citations to the articles corresponding to “….our EPR-on-a-chip transceivers”.
Thank you for your suggestion. We will add more references to the revised manuscript.
"Aesthetic" comment: for my personal taste, there is an excessive use of footnotes. I would move all current footnotes (or the large majority of them) in the main text
Thank you for this “aesthetic” suggestion. We are happy to modify the manuscript accordingly.
RC2
General comments: The manuscript represents an important increment in the capabilities of integrated CMOS-based NMR systems. As the authors say, such systems, in combination with compact permanent magnets, have the potential to extend the usefulness of NMR spectroscopy, imaging, and relaxometry into domains where portability is a paramount concern. The paper gives a very useful and compact account of the relevant literature. It improves on the previous state of art in two key respects. On the one hand, an elegant solution is provided to allow phase-coherent signal acquisition at non-zero IF (with an IF significantly larger than the spectral window). This enhances sensitivity as it allows the receiver to operate above the influence of 1/f noise. On the other hand, a temperature/frequency compensation is built in that allows to compensate for magnetic field drifts, and corresponding shifts in Larmor frequency, due to temperature fluctuations.
The manuscript is well written, and the argument is supported by clear and carefully designed figures. It is a nice addition to the existing literature, and should be published in Magnetic Resonance.
We thank the reviewer for his overall positive review of our manuscript.
Specific comments:
L75ff. In the discussion of the phase control approach, the manuscript uses the term "off-resonance", if I interpret this correctly, to mean a frequency that is different from the excitation frequency, not from the Larmor frequency. I find this confusing, since "off-resonance", in the NMR context, typically refers to a situation where the excitation pulse frequency is different from the Larmor frequency. This then requires higher pulse power, etc. The paragraph should be reformulated to make this clear. It may be best to avoid the term "off-resonance" altogether, because of its inherent ambiguity (off resonance to what?).
We thank the reviewer for this important comment. In our notation, the term "off-resonance" refers to the fact that the excitation frequency is identical to the receiver local oscillator (LO) frequency but different from the Larmor frequency. In this case, there is no phase coherence problem since the excitation and the LO frequency are identical. The term "on-resonance" refers to a situation where the excitation frequency is identical to the Larmor frequency but different from the receiver LO frequency. In this case, phase coherence of consecutive measurements is not guaranteed and measures, such as the ones proposed in the manuscript, have to be taken to obtain phase coherence of signals from consecutive scans.
- L94. Typo: low-filed should be low-field
Thank you for bringing this mistake to our attention. We will correct it in the revised manuscript.
- L200, Figure 4. Would a plot of oscillator phase vs time (as opposed to amplitude vs time) make the argument more easily accessible to the reader?
Thank you for this excellent suggestion. We will include such a plot of phase vs time in the revised manuscript.
- L286: "[...], changes of the ..." This sentence is correct but awkward - reformulate?
Thank you for your comment. We will rewrite the sentence in the revised manuscript.
- L288: What is the mechanism that leads to the described artefacts in the CPMG data due to magnet drift? (This may be well known, in which case a reference would be helpful)
The artifacts in CPMG arise from the time-varying deviation of the excitation frequency from the Larmor frequency, resulting in time-varying off-resonance effects. Here, the proposed calibration scheme removes these artifacts. We will explain this effect in more detail in the revised manuscript.
- L290ff: In addition to rectifying temperature drift effects in CPMG measurements, would the approach also be capable of doing the same for spectral resolution, in a situation where signal averaging over an extended period of time is required? What would be the limitations? If this could be done reliably, it could significantly reduce the complexity of permanent-magnet NMR spectroscopy systems.
The first condition for the proposed scheme to work is that there is sufficient signal quality to extract at least one spectral component, i.e. the Larmor frequency of one type of spins inside the sample, from a single shot experiment. Next, a change of field inhomogeneity with temperature, which cannot be compensated in a straightforward fashion with the proposed method, will cause artifacts in the averaged spectrum. Under such conditions, more elaborate compensations would be required. We will revise the manuscript to mention this limitation of the proposed scheme.
- L308ff, Table II: the SI unit for concentration is either "mmol/l" or "mM". "mM/L" does not make sense.
Thanks for pointing out this sloppy mistake. We will correct it in the revised version of the manuscript.
RC3
General comments: This manuscript describes an interesting novel CMOS-based NMR platform. Fully integrated NMR-on-a-chip approaches are around for a long time already, starting of with the seminal work of Giovanni Boero and his coworkers at EPFL. The novelty of the current design is that it allows arbitrary phase control without compromising the timing of the pulses. Furthermore, the authors use the dual DDS system to implement a frequency-field lock to adapt the frequency of the excitation pulse to the field of a drifting magnet of e.g. a permanent magnet without thermal stabilization. It is an overall interesting manuscript that deserves publication.
The paper is well-written but very technical, I think the first part is somewhat beyond the imagination of much of the readership of “magnetic resonance” and would be more fitting in a more engineering focused journal. The experimental validation is convincing, however, and very accessible for the magnetic resonance community.
We thank the reviewer for his overall positive review of our manuscript and we will modify our paper to make it more accessible to the readership of “Magnetic Resonance”.
Specific comments: I have some remarks relating to the “temperature compensation”. What the system does is adjust the frequency of the excitation pulse to the variation of the magnetic field strength, so I would not call this temperature compensation. This is called a frequency-field lock and has been used already in the early days of NMR to acquire spectra in unstable magnets. Notably it has also been used to signal average NMR signals in ultra-high-field Bitter magnets which display temporal instabilities because of inlet cooling water temperature variations and ripple of the power supply. In those cases, the signal of a separate reference signal was used to track the field variations. In the current implementation the frequency is adjusted based on the frequency variations in the signal of the sample of interest. This precludes signal averaging for samples with very low signal intensity, as the SNR of a single scan needs to be high enough to allow the determination of the frequency shift due the magnet field drift. Furthermore, I think that signal averaging in a permanent magnet without any temperature regulation will not only suffer from drift of the magnetic field, but also there will be temporal variations of the homogeneity due to temperature gradients, so even with the frequency-field lock the resolution will deteriorate. If a separate reference signal would be acquired simultaneously this could be addressed by reference deconvolution. I feel these considerations should be discussed in the paper.
We fully agree with all of the reviewer’s statements. We will therefore revise the manuscript by properly mentioning the great similarity of the proposed approach with classical field locking. The reason why we proposed the “field-locking-based temperature compensation method”, which makes use of the NMR signal itself and zero padding instead of a dedicated lock channel to minimize complexity, is that it can be very easily added in the digital domain if the proposed 2-DDS-based frequency synthesizer is used, rendering it very convenient for CMOS-based NMR platforms utilizing permanent magnets.
We also fully agree that a simply tracking of the Larmor frequency is not enough to compensate for temperature induced changes of the magnetic field distribution over the region of interest. We will modify section 2.2 to discuss these points in greater detail in the revised version of the manuscript.
Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/mr-2022-4-AC1
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CC1: 'Reply on RC1', Jens Anders, 03 Mar 2022
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RC2: 'Comment on mr-2022-4', Anonymous Referee #2, 12 Mar 2022
The manuscript represents an important increment in the capabilities of integrated CMOS-based NMR systems. As the authors say, such systems, in combination with compact permanent magnets, have the potential to extend the usefulness of NMR spectroscopy, imaging, and relaxometry into domains where portability is a paramount concern. The paper gives a very useful and compact account of the relevant literature. It improves on the previous state of art in two key respects. On the one hand, an elegant solution is provided to allow phase-coherent signal acquisition at non-zero IF (with an IF significantly larger than the spectral window). This enhances sensitivity as it allows the receiver to operate above the influence of 1/f noise. On the other hand, a temperature/frequency compensation is built in that allows to compensate for magnetic field drifts, and corresponding shifts in Larmor frequency, due to temperature fluctuations.
The manuscript is well written, and the argument is supported by clear and carefully designed figures. It is a nice addition to the existing literature, and should be published in Magnetic Resonance.
A few minor concerns that should be addressed prior to publication:
- L75ff. In the discussion of the phase control approach, the manuscript uses the term "off-resonance", if I interpret this correctly, to mean a frequency that is different from the excitation frequency, not from the Larmor frequency. I find this confusing, since "off-resonance", in the NMR context, typically refers to a situation where the excitation pulse frequency is different from the Larmor frequency. This then requires higher pulse power, etc. The paragraph should be reformulated to make this clear. It may be best to avoid the term "off-resonance" altogether, because of its inherent ambiguity (off resonance to what?).
- L94. Typo: low-filed should be low-field
- L200, Figure 4. Would a plot of oscillator phase vs time (as opposed to amplitude vs time) make the argument more easily accessible to the reader?
- L286: "[...], changes of the ..." This sentence is correct but awkward - reformulate?
- L288: What is the mechanism that leads to the described artefacts in the CPMG data due to magnet drift? (This may be well known, in which case a reference would be helpful)
- L290ff: In addition to rectifying temperature drift effects in CPMG measurements, would the approach also be capable of doing the same for spectral resolution, in a situation where signal averaging over an extended period of time is required? What would be the limitations? If this could be done reliably, it could significantly reduce the complexity of permanent-magnet NMR spectroscopy systems.
- L308ff, Table II: the SI unit for concentration is either "mmol/l" or "mM". "mM/L" does not make sense.Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/mr-2022-4-RC2 -
CC3: 'Reply on RC2', Jens Anders, 12 Mar 2022
Dear reviewer,
We would like to thank you for your overall positive assessment of our work and the detailed comments and suggestions to improve the manuscript further. We will address all your points in the revised version of the manuscript.
Best wishes,
Jens Anders
Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/mr-2022-4-CC3 -
AC1: 'Comment on mr-2022-4', Qing Yang, 31 Mar 2022
Reply from the authors
Dear Editor, dear reviewers,
We would like to thank you for consideration of our manuscript for publication in Magnetic Resonance and the overall positive evaluation of our work. The detailed and insightful comments from all reviewers will help us to further improve the manuscript. Please find our point-to-point responses to individual comments below.
With best regards,
Qing Yang
On behalf of all co-authors
RC1
General comments: The manuscript describes the digital and analog electronics of a portable NMR spectrometer. It consists of a non-commercially available CMOS integrated circuit designed by the authors (TX/RX electronics with RF PA, RF LNA, mixers, IF amplifier, PLL) and of commercially available electronics (DDS chips, multifunction analog/digital board, switches, …). The operation of the spectrometer is demonstrated with 1H NMR experiments at 62 MHz and 15 MHz using home-made NMR probes consisting of 0.4 and 2 mm diameter solenoidal coils tuned (but not impedance matched) with capacitors. Liquid samples are placed in 0.3 and 1.3 mm outer diameter glass capillary, which tightly fit inside the solenoidal coils.
The most original contribution of this work is the detailed description of a TX/RX phase synchronization method and of a field drift correction method. Of course, the TX/RX phase synchronization and the field drift are problems which are “solved” in all commercially available NMR spectrometers. However, the merit of this manuscript lies in the fact that the method chosen and the hardware required to solve these problems are described in detail and, hence, can be useful to other groups which are working at the development of compact/portable NMR spectrometers. For this reason, I think that the manuscript deserves to be published.
We would like to thank the reviewer for his detailed and overall positive review of our manuscript.
Specific comments:
LINE 23: Typo: “high field homogeneity” instead of “high filed homogeneity”
Thank you for bringing this mistake to our attention. We will correct it in the revised version of the manuscript.
LINE 35: Typo: “Anders and Boero, 2008” instead of “Anders and Chiaramonte, 2008” (Chiaramonte is not author of that conference paper). Correct also LINE 350.
Thank you for bringing this mistake to our attention. We will correct it in the revised version of the manuscript.
LINE 47: At this point in the manuscript, it is not entirely clear the meaning of “phase-coherent detection of the NMR signal at non-zero IF”. A non-zero IF can be produced also with F_LO=F_TX but different from F_LARMOR. In this case there are no phase-coherence issues. Later in the manuscript (LINE 75) it is clear that “non-zero IF” means F_LO different from F_TX, which indeed can produce phase-coherence issues. It is not essential, but maybe I would try to make this clear already at this point of the manuscript.
We agree with the reviewer’s opinion and will modify this sentence accordingly. More specifically, we will clarify that the phase-coherence issues we refer to are produced by the fact that FLO is different from FTX.
LINE 71 (footnote): “Ignoring the inhomogeneity factor”. I guess the authors refer to the B1 inhomogeneity which would than produce a non-homogeneous flip angle in the sample (and, in particular, a flip angle which is not 90° everywhere in the sample). It is almost obvious but I would be more clear.
We will revise the manuscript by specifically stating that the inhomogeneity factor is caused by the B1 inhomogeneity and also the B0 inhomogeneity.
LINE 97: In the given reference (Anders et al., 2010) the impact of gain and phase mismatch on the NMR spectra distortions is not discussed/shown in details. I would suggest to search for references where this issue is discussed/shown more in details.
Thank you for bringing this mistake to your attention:
In the revised manuscript, we will use the following reference instead:
Rahman, A.-u.-., Iqbal., C. M., and Atia-tul, W.: Solving problems with NMR spectroscopy, Elsevier Academic Press, United Kingdom; San Diego, CA2016a.
In section 2.5 of this reference, there is a detailed discussion about how phase cycling can eliminate the imbalance between two channels.
LINE 107: I would write “NdFeB permanent magnet” instead of “Neodymium permanent magnet”. I would also add the value of its typical temperature coefficient (about 0.1%/K at room temperature).
We are happy to use the term “NdFeB permanent magnet” in the revised manuscript. In line 60 of the manuscript, we have mentioned the temperature coefficients of two common magnet materials.
LINE 132: If the scaling factor is selectable from 0.5 to 64, is it correct that the output frequency is between 5.7 MHz and 770 MHz?
This part was unfortunately not well explained in the original version of the manuscript. In fact, a scaling factor of 0.5 refers to the case where an off-chip LO is used instead of the on-chip PLL. This off-chip LO is divided by two to produce the required quadrature signals. In this case, the PA output frequency can in fact go down to DC. However, the usable (TX and RX) output operating frequency range of our platform is limited between 5MHz and 770MHz, where the lower limit is defined by an AC coupling capacitor in the receiver (between the LNA and the mixer.
LINE 138: I would specifically mention the gain of the LNA and the gain of the mixer (even if it is already mentioned the total RX gain and the gain of the VGA and the gain of the external filter).
Thank you for your comment. We will revise the manuscript accordingly.
LINE 142: I would mention which specific 130 nm BiCMOS technology has been used for the integrated circuit.
Thank you for your comment. We will revise the manuscript accordingly.
LINE 165: Figure 3b: I would add a scale bar (even if the dimensions are given in the caption).
Thank you for your comment. We will add the requested scale bar.
LINE 182: Typo (I guess): “…within a few microseconds” instead of “….with a few microseconds”
Thank you for your comment. We will correct this mistake.
LINE 230: Figure 5: I would add a scale bar (even if the coil dimensions are given in the text).
Thank you for your comment. We will add the requested scale bar.
LINE 232: It would be nice to show a picture of the custom made 0.36 T magnet and give some details of it.
Thank you for your comment. We will provide a more detailed description of the magnet.
LINE 233: I would specify on which volume you have an homogeneity of 20 ppm (I guess it is on the sample volume).
Thank you for your comment. The homogeneity is indeed calculated according to the signal bandwidth over the sample volume. We will state this more clearly in the revised manuscript.
LINE 257: I would specify the repetition time (i.e., the time distance between two consecutive measurements). At first sight, I would have performed many more consecutive measurements than 100. Do you expect any significant difference if 1000, 10000, or more measurements are taken? Which is the origin of the observed standard deviation of the phase? Is it just due to noise present in the signal which set a limit in the standard deviation of the phase or it is larger and due to a residual phase syncronization problem (it is probably possible to run a simple simulation to clarify this point)?
We thank the reviewer for raising this important question. The repetition time used was 1.5 s, which is more than five times of T1, to allow the magnetization to rebuild completely before the next scan. We also performed experiments with a larger number of consecutive measurements with correspondingly larger field/frequency shifts.
In all experiments shown in the manuscript, we synchronized the RX phase to TX phase at the beginning of the pulse, leading to a phase of the NMR signal, which, for a fixed excitation pulse length, varies with the TX frequency (for a fixed pulse length, the phase at the end of the pulse is different for different TX frequencies). We used the rising edge to give the on-chip PLL time to settle to the RX phase defined by DDS2. When using dead times after the pulse that are longer than the PLL settling time, we can also synchronize TX and RX phase at the falling edge of the pulse, removing the problem of phase uncertainty with changes in the TX frequency, allowing for larger number of averages. In the revised version of the manuscript, we will also include these measurements.
LINE 261: Table 1: It is not clear to me why it is relevant to show also the mean value of the phase. I would specify the number of measurements (10, I guess from the text) and the repetition time. As for the previous case, I would have performed many more consecutive measurements than 10. Do you expect any significant difference if 100, 1000, 10000, or more measurements are taken?
Thank you for your comment. We will remove the mean value from the table. Concerning the expectations for a larger number of measurements, please refer to our answer to your previous question.
LINE 287: Although it might be well known for most of the NMR specialists, I would explain in some more details why “…the predefined pulse length is no longer correct, resulting in distorted CPMG signals”.
Thank you for your comment. We will revise the manuscript accordingly.
LINE 295: Figure 9. I would specify the sample used for this measurement. Is it again sunflower oil? T2 is slightly shorter (77 ms) than the one in Figure 8 for sunflower oil (85 ms). As addition to Figure 9a, I would suggest also to add the CPMG “decay” obtained with the temperature induced field drift compensation scheme.
Thank you for your comment. The sample is the same sunflower oil. However, the experiments were conducted with almost one month in between, and the sample was not protected from light. We will therefore rerun both experiments with fresh sunflower oil and show these data in the revised version of the manuscript. In Fig. 9a, the correct attenuation line is obtained based on the temperature compensation scheme. We will modify the manuscript accordingly.
LINE 296: It is not clear to me if and why the measurements with heterogeneous samples are relevant to qualify the phase-synchronization and field-correction approach proposed in this paper. Of course, these are additional nice measurements that can be included in the article but their “relevance” for the main messages of the paper is not fully clear to me.
Thank you for your comment. We merely used the measurements on the heterogeneous samples as an example for 2D relaxation measurements since the duration of such experiments is typically much longer and a field-correct approach is almost mandatory.
LINE 308: Table II: I wonder if it make sense (and it is correct in metrology terms) to specify the T2 and T1 values with so many significant digits (I guess not but I’m not sure).
Thank you for your comment. We will revise the manuscript by stating only statistically relevant information (no digits after the decimal dot).
LINE 310: Figure 10: I would mention the Cu concentration in the figure caption or directly in the figure (even if these number are given in the text).
Thank you for this suggestion. We will add the Cu concentration in the figure caption.
LINE 325: I would add a few citations to the articles corresponding to “….our EPR-on-a-chip transceivers”.
Thank you for your suggestion. We will add more references to the revised manuscript.
"Aesthetic" comment: for my personal taste, there is an excessive use of footnotes. I would move all current footnotes (or the large majority of them) in the main text
Thank you for this “aesthetic” suggestion. We are happy to modify the manuscript accordingly.
RC2
General comments: The manuscript represents an important increment in the capabilities of integrated CMOS-based NMR systems. As the authors say, such systems, in combination with compact permanent magnets, have the potential to extend the usefulness of NMR spectroscopy, imaging, and relaxometry into domains where portability is a paramount concern. The paper gives a very useful and compact account of the relevant literature. It improves on the previous state of art in two key respects. On the one hand, an elegant solution is provided to allow phase-coherent signal acquisition at non-zero IF (with an IF significantly larger than the spectral window). This enhances sensitivity as it allows the receiver to operate above the influence of 1/f noise. On the other hand, a temperature/frequency compensation is built in that allows to compensate for magnetic field drifts, and corresponding shifts in Larmor frequency, due to temperature fluctuations.
The manuscript is well written, and the argument is supported by clear and carefully designed figures. It is a nice addition to the existing literature, and should be published in Magnetic Resonance.
We thank the reviewer for his overall positive review of our manuscript.
Specific comments:
L75ff. In the discussion of the phase control approach, the manuscript uses the term "off-resonance", if I interpret this correctly, to mean a frequency that is different from the excitation frequency, not from the Larmor frequency. I find this confusing, since "off-resonance", in the NMR context, typically refers to a situation where the excitation pulse frequency is different from the Larmor frequency. This then requires higher pulse power, etc. The paragraph should be reformulated to make this clear. It may be best to avoid the term "off-resonance" altogether, because of its inherent ambiguity (off resonance to what?).
We thank the reviewer for this important comment. In our notation, the term "off-resonance" refers to the fact that the excitation frequency is identical to the receiver local oscillator (LO) frequency but different from the Larmor frequency. In this case, there is no phase coherence problem since the excitation and the LO frequency are identical. The term "on-resonance" refers to a situation where the excitation frequency is identical to the Larmor frequency but different from the receiver LO frequency. In this case, phase coherence of consecutive measurements is not guaranteed and measures, such as the ones proposed in the manuscript, have to be taken to obtain phase coherence of signals from consecutive scans.
- L94. Typo: low-filed should be low-field
Thank you for bringing this mistake to our attention. We will correct it in the revised manuscript.
- L200, Figure 4. Would a plot of oscillator phase vs time (as opposed to amplitude vs time) make the argument more easily accessible to the reader?
Thank you for this excellent suggestion. We will include such a plot of phase vs time in the revised manuscript.
- L286: "[...], changes of the ..." This sentence is correct but awkward - reformulate?
Thank you for your comment. We will rewrite the sentence in the revised manuscript.
- L288: What is the mechanism that leads to the described artefacts in the CPMG data due to magnet drift? (This may be well known, in which case a reference would be helpful)
The artifacts in CPMG arise from the time-varying deviation of the excitation frequency from the Larmor frequency, resulting in time-varying off-resonance effects. Here, the proposed calibration scheme removes these artifacts. We will explain this effect in more detail in the revised manuscript.
- L290ff: In addition to rectifying temperature drift effects in CPMG measurements, would the approach also be capable of doing the same for spectral resolution, in a situation where signal averaging over an extended period of time is required? What would be the limitations? If this could be done reliably, it could significantly reduce the complexity of permanent-magnet NMR spectroscopy systems.
The first condition for the proposed scheme to work is that there is sufficient signal quality to extract at least one spectral component, i.e. the Larmor frequency of one type of spins inside the sample, from a single shot experiment. Next, a change of field inhomogeneity with temperature, which cannot be compensated in a straightforward fashion with the proposed method, will cause artifacts in the averaged spectrum. Under such conditions, more elaborate compensations would be required. We will revise the manuscript to mention this limitation of the proposed scheme.
- L308ff, Table II: the SI unit for concentration is either "mmol/l" or "mM". "mM/L" does not make sense.
Thanks for pointing out this sloppy mistake. We will correct it in the revised version of the manuscript.
RC3
General comments: This manuscript describes an interesting novel CMOS-based NMR platform. Fully integrated NMR-on-a-chip approaches are around for a long time already, starting of with the seminal work of Giovanni Boero and his coworkers at EPFL. The novelty of the current design is that it allows arbitrary phase control without compromising the timing of the pulses. Furthermore, the authors use the dual DDS system to implement a frequency-field lock to adapt the frequency of the excitation pulse to the field of a drifting magnet of e.g. a permanent magnet without thermal stabilization. It is an overall interesting manuscript that deserves publication.
The paper is well-written but very technical, I think the first part is somewhat beyond the imagination of much of the readership of “magnetic resonance” and would be more fitting in a more engineering focused journal. The experimental validation is convincing, however, and very accessible for the magnetic resonance community.
We thank the reviewer for his overall positive review of our manuscript and we will modify our paper to make it more accessible to the readership of “Magnetic Resonance”.
Specific comments: I have some remarks relating to the “temperature compensation”. What the system does is adjust the frequency of the excitation pulse to the variation of the magnetic field strength, so I would not call this temperature compensation. This is called a frequency-field lock and has been used already in the early days of NMR to acquire spectra in unstable magnets. Notably it has also been used to signal average NMR signals in ultra-high-field Bitter magnets which display temporal instabilities because of inlet cooling water temperature variations and ripple of the power supply. In those cases, the signal of a separate reference signal was used to track the field variations. In the current implementation the frequency is adjusted based on the frequency variations in the signal of the sample of interest. This precludes signal averaging for samples with very low signal intensity, as the SNR of a single scan needs to be high enough to allow the determination of the frequency shift due the magnet field drift. Furthermore, I think that signal averaging in a permanent magnet without any temperature regulation will not only suffer from drift of the magnetic field, but also there will be temporal variations of the homogeneity due to temperature gradients, so even with the frequency-field lock the resolution will deteriorate. If a separate reference signal would be acquired simultaneously this could be addressed by reference deconvolution. I feel these considerations should be discussed in the paper.
We fully agree with all of the reviewer’s statements. We will therefore revise the manuscript by properly mentioning the great similarity of the proposed approach with classical field locking. The reason why we proposed the “field-locking-based temperature compensation method”, which makes use of the NMR signal itself and zero padding instead of a dedicated lock channel to minimize complexity, is that it can be very easily added in the digital domain if the proposed 2-DDS-based frequency synthesizer is used, rendering it very convenient for CMOS-based NMR platforms utilizing permanent magnets.
We also fully agree that a simply tracking of the Larmor frequency is not enough to compensate for temperature induced changes of the magnetic field distribution over the region of interest. We will modify section 2.2 to discuss these points in greater detail in the revised version of the manuscript.
Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/mr-2022-4-AC1
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CC3: 'Reply on RC2', Jens Anders, 12 Mar 2022
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EC1: 'Comment on mr-2022-4', Geoffrey Bodenhausen, 16 Mar 2022
This paper may a bit hard to read for spectroscopists who are not familiar with engineering.It seems that the abbreviation “CMOS” could be removed from the title, since it is clearly defined in the abstract (“complementary metal-oxide-semiconductor (CMOS)”)The abbreviations TX and RX could be replaced without inconvenience by “transmitter” and “receiver”.While the expression "frequency reference and temperature compensation scheme” is clear, I do not understand what is meant by "phase-coherent detection” and “phase-synchronous detection". Surely nobody wants to have a detector that does not give any information about the phase of the signals? What are the alternatives? A diode-based detector? An absolute-value representation after Fourier transformation?It seems that “non-zero IF” is a somewhat unfortunate expression. If the intermediate frequency (IF) is zero, the very concept loses its meaning. How about simply writing "intermediate frequency (IF)”?It is not very clear how you define the difference between the “software TX signal from the pulse controller” and "the actual TX pulse”.Citation: https://doi.org/
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CC4: 'Reply on EC1', Jens Anders, 16 Mar 2022
Dear Dr. Bodenhausen,
Thank you very much for taking the time to provide your detailed comments.
We fully agree with your assessment that parts of the paper might be a bit hard to read for spectroscopists without a background in engineering and we will do our best to improve this in the revised version of the manuscript.
Below you can find details answers to your specific comments:
<<It seems that the abbreviation “CMOS” could be removed from the title, since it is clearly defined in the abstract (“complementary metal-oxide-<<semiconductor (CMOS)”)
We are happy to remove the abbreviation CMOS from the title to avoid confusion.
<<The abbreviations TX and RX could be replaced without inconvenience by “transmitter” and “receiver”.
Agreed. We will change that.
<<While the expression "frequency reference and temperature compensation scheme” is clear, I do not understand what is meant by "phase-<<coherent detection” and “phase-synchronous detection". Surely nobody wants to have a detector that does not give any information about the <<phase of the signals? What are the alternatives? A diode-based detector? An absolute-value representation after Fourier transformation?
Thank you for bringing up this important point. You are absolutely right that a pure detection of the magnitude is suboptimal. And all that I will say next is clear to many readers of the journal, but I will use it to define the terms “phase-sensitive” vs. “phase-synchronous”.
All commercial NMR spectrometers allow for phase-sensitive detection, i.e., detection of the amplitude and the phase of the NMR signal (typically used to display the real part of the spectrum). Achieving such a “phase-sensitive” detection is trivial since the Fourier transform of the detector output provides this kind of information. This being said, “phase-coherent” and “phase-synchronous detection” are more than just extracting the phase of the output signal since they are referring to extracting the actual phase of the NMR signal (i. e. the sample magnetization in the rotating frame of reference). In a simple pulse acquire experiment, the phase of the B1 field during the pulse defines the rotating frame of reference and, thereby, also the “phase” of the NMR signal. For simplicity, we also assume a very boring sample with a single resonance line. If you use the same (continuously running) oscillator to produce the B1 field and the local oscillator to frequency downconvert the NMR signal, you are effectively extracting the magnetization in the correct rotating frame, i.e. the correct phase of the NMR signal. If you are using a different frequency to frequency downconvert the NMR signal (we do this for technical reasons to avoid the so-called 1/f noise and other low-frequency noise sources), you are “observing” the magnetization in a rotating frame of reference that rotates at an offset frequency with respect to the rotating frame of reference of the spins. Naturally, you can still extract “a phase” from the output of the frequency downconverter but if you were to repeat the measurement with an arbitrary dwell time in between, you will find out that the phase you are extracting will randomly vary from pulse to pulse because your rotating frame of reference (i.e. the one defined by the mixer/frequency downconverter) is not phase-coherent or phase-synchronous with the spin magnetization (defined by the phase of the B1 field during the excitation pulse). One way that is generally applicable (there are other ways with more or less general applicability described in our manuscript) and that is used in our work (as correctly pointed out by one of the reviewers, we did not invent this approach since it used – to the best of my knowledge – in all Bruker spectrometers) is to make sure that the signal you are using to downconvert (in engineering, we call this the local oscillator signal) the NMR signal always starts with the same phase after the pulse and derive this phase from the phase of the excitation pulse. We refer to the latter two properties of the local oscillator signal as “phase synchronicity” or “phase coherence” (with the rotating frame of reference of the spins).
If you are using a more complicated pulse sequence, you have to establish phase synchronicity of the LO signal after every “observation pulse”, i.e. every pulse after which you read out the transversal spin magnetization.
<<It seems that “non-zero IF” is a somewhat unfortunate expression. If the intermediate frequency (IF) is zero, the very concept loses its meaning. <<How about simply writing "intermediate frequency (IF)”?
We would not say that the concept becomes useless. For a zero-IF scenario (i.e. a local oscillator frequency equalling the frequency of the B1 field) the situation simply becomes trivial as explained above, because you are observing the spin magnetization in the correct rotating frame of reference. By explicitly referring to a non-zero IF and a zero-IF, we wanted to distinguish between the non-trivial and the trivial case. We will try to make this point clearer in the revised version of the manuscript.
<< It is not very clear how you define the difference between the “software TX signal from the pulse controller” and "the actual TX pulse”.
We will explain this in more detail in the revised version. The software TX is essentially the trigger signal from the console and the actual TX is a signal realigned by hardware means. It is a technical detail but we wanted to include it in case somebody wants to rebuild the system.
Best wishes,
Jens Anders
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CC5: 'Reply on EC1', Jens Anders, 16 Mar 2022
Dear Dr. Bodenhausen,
Thank you very much for taking the time to provide your detailed comments.
We fully agree with your assessment that parts of the paper might be a bit hard to read for spectroscopists without a background in engineering and we will do our best to improve this in the revised version of the manuscript.
Below you can find details answers to your specific comments:
<<It seems that the abbreviation “CMOS” could be removed from the title, since it is clearly defined in the abstract (“complementary metal-oxide-<<semiconductor (CMOS)”)
We are happy to remove the abbreviation CMOS from the title to avoid confusion.
<<The abbreviations TX and RX could be replaced without inconvenience by “transmitter” and “receiver”.
Agreed. We will change that.
<<While the expression "frequency reference and temperature compensation scheme” is clear, I do not understand what is meant by "phase-<<coherent detection” and “phase-synchronous detection". Surely nobody wants to have a detector that does not give any information about the <<phase of the signals? What are the alternatives? A diode-based detector? An absolute-value representation after Fourier transformation?
Thank you for bringing up this important point. You are absolutely right that a pure detection of the magnitude is suboptimal. And all that I will say next is clear to many readers of the journal, but I will use it to define the terms “phase-sensitive” vs. “phase-synchronous”.
All commercial NMR spectrometers allow for phase-sensitive detection, i.e., detection of the amplitude and the phase of the NMR signal (typically used to display the real part of the spectrum). Achieving such a “phase-sensitive” detection is trivial since the Fourier transform of the detector output provides this kind of information. This being said, “phase-coherent” and “phase-synchronous detection” are more than just extracting the phase of the output signal since they are referring to extracting the actual phase of the NMR signal (i. e. the sample magnetization in the rotating frame of reference). In a simple pulse acquire experiment, the phase of the B1 field during the pulse defines the rotating frame of reference and, thereby, also the “phase” of the NMR signal. For simplicity, we also assume a very boring sample with a single resonance line. If you use the same (continuously running) oscillator to produce the B1 field and the local oscillator to frequency downconvert the NMR signal, you are effectively extracting the magnetization in the correct rotating frame, i.e. the correct phase of the NMR signal. If you are using a different frequency to frequency downconvert the NMR signal (we do this for technical reasons to avoid the so-called 1/f noise and other low-frequency noise sources), you are “observing” the magnetization in a rotating frame of reference that rotates at an offset frequency with respect to the rotating frame of reference of the spins. Naturally, you can still extract “a phase” from the output of the frequency downconverter but if you were to repeat the measurement with an arbitrary dwell time in between, you will find out that the phase you are extracting will randomly vary from pulse to pulse because your rotating frame of reference (i.e. the one defined by the mixer/frequency downconverter) is not phase-coherent or phase-synchronous with the spin magnetization (defined by the phase of the B1 field during the excitation pulse). One way that is generally applicable (there are other ways with more or less general applicability described in our manuscript) and that is used in our work (as correctly pointed out by one of the reviewers, we did not invent this approach since it used – to the best of my knowledge – in all Bruker spectrometers) is to make sure that the signal you are using to downconvert (in engineering, we call this the local oscillator signal) the NMR signal always starts with the same phase after the pulse and derive this phase from the phase of the excitation pulse. We refer to the latter two properties of the local oscillator signal as “phase synchronicity” or “phase coherence” (with the rotating frame of reference of the spins).
If you are using a more complicated pulse sequence, you have to establish phase synchronicity of the LO signal after every “observation pulse”, i.e. every pulse after which you read out the transversal spin magnetization.
<<It seems that “non-zero IF” is a somewhat unfortunate expression. If the intermediate frequency (IF) is zero, the very concept loses its meaning. <<How about simply writing "intermediate frequency (IF)”?
We would not say that the concept becomes useless. For a zero-IF scenario (i.e. a local oscillator frequency equalling the frequency of the B1 field) the situation simply becomes trivial as explained above, because you are observing the spin magnetization in the correct rotating frame of reference. By explicitly referring to a non-zero IF and a zero-IF, we wanted to distinguish between the non-trivial and the trivial case. We will try to make this point clearer in the revised version of the manuscript.
<< It is not very clear how you define the difference between the “software TX signal from the pulse controller” and "the actual TX pulse”.
We will explain this in more detail in the revised version. The software TX is essentially the trigger signal from the console and the actual TX is a signal realigned by hardware means. It is a technical detail but we wanted to include it in case somebody wants to rebuild the system.
Best wishes,
Jens Anders
Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/mr-2022-4-CC5
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CC4: 'Reply on EC1', Jens Anders, 16 Mar 2022
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RC3: 'Comment on mr-2022-4', Anonymous Referee #3, 18 Mar 2022
This manuscript describes an interesting novel CMOS-based NMR platform. Fully integrated NMR-on-a-chip approaches are around for a long time already, starting of with the seminal work of Giovanni Boero and his coworkers at EPFL. The novelty of the current design is that it allows arbitrary phase control without compromising the timing of the pulses. Furthermore, the authors use the dual DDS system to implement a frequency-field lock to adapt the frequency of the excitation pulse to the field of a drifting magnet of e.g. a permanent magnet without thermal stabilization. It is an overall interesting manuscript that deserves publication.
The paper is well-written but very technical, I think the first part is somewhat beyond the imagination of much of the readership of “magnetic resonance” and would be more fitting in a more engineering focused journal. The experimental validation is convincing, however, and very accessible for the magnetic resonance community.
I have some remarks relating to the “temperature compensation”. What the system does is adjust the frequency of the excitation pulse to the variation of the magnetic field strength, so I would not call this temperature compensation. This is called a frequency-field lock and has been used already in the early days of NMR to acquire spectra in unstable magnets. Notably it has also been used to signal average NMR signals in ultra-high-field Bitter magnets which display temporal instabilities because of inlet cooling water temperature variations and ripple of the power supply. In those cases, the signal of a separate reference signal was used to track the field variations. In the current implementation the frequency is adjusted based on the frequency variations in the signal of the sample of interest. This precludes signal averaging for samples with very low signal intensity, as the SNR of a single scan needs to be high enough to allow the determination of the frequency shift due the magnet field drift. Furthermore, I think that signal averaging in a permanent magnet without any temperature regulation will not only suffer from drift of the magnetic field, but also there will be temporal variations of the homogeneity due to temperature gradients, so even with the frequency-field lock the resolution will deteriorate. If a separate reference signal would be acquired simultaneously this could be addressed by reference deconvolution. I feel these considerations should be discussed in the paper.
Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/mr-2022-4-RC3 -
CC6: 'Reply on RC3', Jens Anders, 22 Mar 2022
Dear reviewer,
Thank you very much for your overall positive and detailed comments. We will try to revise the technical tone in the updated manuscript and address all of your specific concerns.
Best wishes,
Jens Anders
Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/mr-2022-4-CC6 -
AC1: 'Comment on mr-2022-4', Qing Yang, 31 Mar 2022
Reply from the authors
Dear Editor, dear reviewers,
We would like to thank you for consideration of our manuscript for publication in Magnetic Resonance and the overall positive evaluation of our work. The detailed and insightful comments from all reviewers will help us to further improve the manuscript. Please find our point-to-point responses to individual comments below.
With best regards,
Qing Yang
On behalf of all co-authors
RC1
General comments: The manuscript describes the digital and analog electronics of a portable NMR spectrometer. It consists of a non-commercially available CMOS integrated circuit designed by the authors (TX/RX electronics with RF PA, RF LNA, mixers, IF amplifier, PLL) and of commercially available electronics (DDS chips, multifunction analog/digital board, switches, …). The operation of the spectrometer is demonstrated with 1H NMR experiments at 62 MHz and 15 MHz using home-made NMR probes consisting of 0.4 and 2 mm diameter solenoidal coils tuned (but not impedance matched) with capacitors. Liquid samples are placed in 0.3 and 1.3 mm outer diameter glass capillary, which tightly fit inside the solenoidal coils.
The most original contribution of this work is the detailed description of a TX/RX phase synchronization method and of a field drift correction method. Of course, the TX/RX phase synchronization and the field drift are problems which are “solved” in all commercially available NMR spectrometers. However, the merit of this manuscript lies in the fact that the method chosen and the hardware required to solve these problems are described in detail and, hence, can be useful to other groups which are working at the development of compact/portable NMR spectrometers. For this reason, I think that the manuscript deserves to be published.
We would like to thank the reviewer for his detailed and overall positive review of our manuscript.
Specific comments:
LINE 23: Typo: “high field homogeneity” instead of “high filed homogeneity”
Thank you for bringing this mistake to our attention. We will correct it in the revised version of the manuscript.
LINE 35: Typo: “Anders and Boero, 2008” instead of “Anders and Chiaramonte, 2008” (Chiaramonte is not author of that conference paper). Correct also LINE 350.
Thank you for bringing this mistake to our attention. We will correct it in the revised version of the manuscript.
LINE 47: At this point in the manuscript, it is not entirely clear the meaning of “phase-coherent detection of the NMR signal at non-zero IF”. A non-zero IF can be produced also with F_LO=F_TX but different from F_LARMOR. In this case there are no phase-coherence issues. Later in the manuscript (LINE 75) it is clear that “non-zero IF” means F_LO different from F_TX, which indeed can produce phase-coherence issues. It is not essential, but maybe I would try to make this clear already at this point of the manuscript.
We agree with the reviewer’s opinion and will modify this sentence accordingly. More specifically, we will clarify that the phase-coherence issues we refer to are produced by the fact that FLO is different from FTX.
LINE 71 (footnote): “Ignoring the inhomogeneity factor”. I guess the authors refer to the B1 inhomogeneity which would than produce a non-homogeneous flip angle in the sample (and, in particular, a flip angle which is not 90° everywhere in the sample). It is almost obvious but I would be more clear.
We will revise the manuscript by specifically stating that the inhomogeneity factor is caused by the B1 inhomogeneity and also the B0 inhomogeneity.
LINE 97: In the given reference (Anders et al., 2010) the impact of gain and phase mismatch on the NMR spectra distortions is not discussed/shown in details. I would suggest to search for references where this issue is discussed/shown more in details.
Thank you for bringing this mistake to your attention:
In the revised manuscript, we will use the following reference instead:
Rahman, A.-u.-., Iqbal., C. M., and Atia-tul, W.: Solving problems with NMR spectroscopy, Elsevier Academic Press, United Kingdom; San Diego, CA2016a.
In section 2.5 of this reference, there is a detailed discussion about how phase cycling can eliminate the imbalance between two channels.
LINE 107: I would write “NdFeB permanent magnet” instead of “Neodymium permanent magnet”. I would also add the value of its typical temperature coefficient (about 0.1%/K at room temperature).
We are happy to use the term “NdFeB permanent magnet” in the revised manuscript. In line 60 of the manuscript, we have mentioned the temperature coefficients of two common magnet materials.
LINE 132: If the scaling factor is selectable from 0.5 to 64, is it correct that the output frequency is between 5.7 MHz and 770 MHz?
This part was unfortunately not well explained in the original version of the manuscript. In fact, a scaling factor of 0.5 refers to the case where an off-chip LO is used instead of the on-chip PLL. This off-chip LO is divided by two to produce the required quadrature signals. In this case, the PA output frequency can in fact go down to DC. However, the usable (TX and RX) output operating frequency range of our platform is limited between 5MHz and 770MHz, where the lower limit is defined by an AC coupling capacitor in the receiver (between the LNA and the mixer.
LINE 138: I would specifically mention the gain of the LNA and the gain of the mixer (even if it is already mentioned the total RX gain and the gain of the VGA and the gain of the external filter).
Thank you for your comment. We will revise the manuscript accordingly.
LINE 142: I would mention which specific 130 nm BiCMOS technology has been used for the integrated circuit.
Thank you for your comment. We will revise the manuscript accordingly.
LINE 165: Figure 3b: I would add a scale bar (even if the dimensions are given in the caption).
Thank you for your comment. We will add the requested scale bar.
LINE 182: Typo (I guess): “…within a few microseconds” instead of “….with a few microseconds”
Thank you for your comment. We will correct this mistake.
LINE 230: Figure 5: I would add a scale bar (even if the coil dimensions are given in the text).
Thank you for your comment. We will add the requested scale bar.
LINE 232: It would be nice to show a picture of the custom made 0.36 T magnet and give some details of it.
Thank you for your comment. We will provide a more detailed description of the magnet.
LINE 233: I would specify on which volume you have an homogeneity of 20 ppm (I guess it is on the sample volume).
Thank you for your comment. The homogeneity is indeed calculated according to the signal bandwidth over the sample volume. We will state this more clearly in the revised manuscript.
LINE 257: I would specify the repetition time (i.e., the time distance between two consecutive measurements). At first sight, I would have performed many more consecutive measurements than 100. Do you expect any significant difference if 1000, 10000, or more measurements are taken? Which is the origin of the observed standard deviation of the phase? Is it just due to noise present in the signal which set a limit in the standard deviation of the phase or it is larger and due to a residual phase syncronization problem (it is probably possible to run a simple simulation to clarify this point)?
We thank the reviewer for raising this important question. The repetition time used was 1.5 s, which is more than five times of T1, to allow the magnetization to rebuild completely before the next scan. We also performed experiments with a larger number of consecutive measurements with correspondingly larger field/frequency shifts.
In all experiments shown in the manuscript, we synchronized the RX phase to TX phase at the beginning of the pulse, leading to a phase of the NMR signal, which, for a fixed excitation pulse length, varies with the TX frequency (for a fixed pulse length, the phase at the end of the pulse is different for different TX frequencies). We used the rising edge to give the on-chip PLL time to settle to the RX phase defined by DDS2. When using dead times after the pulse that are longer than the PLL settling time, we can also synchronize TX and RX phase at the falling edge of the pulse, removing the problem of phase uncertainty with changes in the TX frequency, allowing for larger number of averages. In the revised version of the manuscript, we will also include these measurements.
LINE 261: Table 1: It is not clear to me why it is relevant to show also the mean value of the phase. I would specify the number of measurements (10, I guess from the text) and the repetition time. As for the previous case, I would have performed many more consecutive measurements than 10. Do you expect any significant difference if 100, 1000, 10000, or more measurements are taken?
Thank you for your comment. We will remove the mean value from the table. Concerning the expectations for a larger number of measurements, please refer to our answer to your previous question.
LINE 287: Although it might be well known for most of the NMR specialists, I would explain in some more details why “…the predefined pulse length is no longer correct, resulting in distorted CPMG signals”.
Thank you for your comment. We will revise the manuscript accordingly.
LINE 295: Figure 9. I would specify the sample used for this measurement. Is it again sunflower oil? T2 is slightly shorter (77 ms) than the one in Figure 8 for sunflower oil (85 ms). As addition to Figure 9a, I would suggest also to add the CPMG “decay” obtained with the temperature induced field drift compensation scheme.
Thank you for your comment. The sample is the same sunflower oil. However, the experiments were conducted with almost one month in between, and the sample was not protected from light. We will therefore rerun both experiments with fresh sunflower oil and show these data in the revised version of the manuscript. In Fig. 9a, the correct attenuation line is obtained based on the temperature compensation scheme. We will modify the manuscript accordingly.
LINE 296: It is not clear to me if and why the measurements with heterogeneous samples are relevant to qualify the phase-synchronization and field-correction approach proposed in this paper. Of course, these are additional nice measurements that can be included in the article but their “relevance” for the main messages of the paper is not fully clear to me.
Thank you for your comment. We merely used the measurements on the heterogeneous samples as an example for 2D relaxation measurements since the duration of such experiments is typically much longer and a field-correct approach is almost mandatory.
LINE 308: Table II: I wonder if it make sense (and it is correct in metrology terms) to specify the T2 and T1 values with so many significant digits (I guess not but I’m not sure).
Thank you for your comment. We will revise the manuscript by stating only statistically relevant information (no digits after the decimal dot).
LINE 310: Figure 10: I would mention the Cu concentration in the figure caption or directly in the figure (even if these number are given in the text).
Thank you for this suggestion. We will add the Cu concentration in the figure caption.
LINE 325: I would add a few citations to the articles corresponding to “….our EPR-on-a-chip transceivers”.
Thank you for your suggestion. We will add more references to the revised manuscript.
"Aesthetic" comment: for my personal taste, there is an excessive use of footnotes. I would move all current footnotes (or the large majority of them) in the main text
Thank you for this “aesthetic” suggestion. We are happy to modify the manuscript accordingly.
RC2
General comments: The manuscript represents an important increment in the capabilities of integrated CMOS-based NMR systems. As the authors say, such systems, in combination with compact permanent magnets, have the potential to extend the usefulness of NMR spectroscopy, imaging, and relaxometry into domains where portability is a paramount concern. The paper gives a very useful and compact account of the relevant literature. It improves on the previous state of art in two key respects. On the one hand, an elegant solution is provided to allow phase-coherent signal acquisition at non-zero IF (with an IF significantly larger than the spectral window). This enhances sensitivity as it allows the receiver to operate above the influence of 1/f noise. On the other hand, a temperature/frequency compensation is built in that allows to compensate for magnetic field drifts, and corresponding shifts in Larmor frequency, due to temperature fluctuations.
The manuscript is well written, and the argument is supported by clear and carefully designed figures. It is a nice addition to the existing literature, and should be published in Magnetic Resonance.
We thank the reviewer for his overall positive review of our manuscript.
Specific comments:
L75ff. In the discussion of the phase control approach, the manuscript uses the term "off-resonance", if I interpret this correctly, to mean a frequency that is different from the excitation frequency, not from the Larmor frequency. I find this confusing, since "off-resonance", in the NMR context, typically refers to a situation where the excitation pulse frequency is different from the Larmor frequency. This then requires higher pulse power, etc. The paragraph should be reformulated to make this clear. It may be best to avoid the term "off-resonance" altogether, because of its inherent ambiguity (off resonance to what?).
We thank the reviewer for this important comment. In our notation, the term "off-resonance" refers to the fact that the excitation frequency is identical to the receiver local oscillator (LO) frequency but different from the Larmor frequency. In this case, there is no phase coherence problem since the excitation and the LO frequency are identical. The term "on-resonance" refers to a situation where the excitation frequency is identical to the Larmor frequency but different from the receiver LO frequency. In this case, phase coherence of consecutive measurements is not guaranteed and measures, such as the ones proposed in the manuscript, have to be taken to obtain phase coherence of signals from consecutive scans.
- L94. Typo: low-filed should be low-field
Thank you for bringing this mistake to our attention. We will correct it in the revised manuscript.
- L200, Figure 4. Would a plot of oscillator phase vs time (as opposed to amplitude vs time) make the argument more easily accessible to the reader?
Thank you for this excellent suggestion. We will include such a plot of phase vs time in the revised manuscript.
- L286: "[...], changes of the ..." This sentence is correct but awkward - reformulate?
Thank you for your comment. We will rewrite the sentence in the revised manuscript.
- L288: What is the mechanism that leads to the described artefacts in the CPMG data due to magnet drift? (This may be well known, in which case a reference would be helpful)
The artifacts in CPMG arise from the time-varying deviation of the excitation frequency from the Larmor frequency, resulting in time-varying off-resonance effects. Here, the proposed calibration scheme removes these artifacts. We will explain this effect in more detail in the revised manuscript.
- L290ff: In addition to rectifying temperature drift effects in CPMG measurements, would the approach also be capable of doing the same for spectral resolution, in a situation where signal averaging over an extended period of time is required? What would be the limitations? If this could be done reliably, it could significantly reduce the complexity of permanent-magnet NMR spectroscopy systems.
The first condition for the proposed scheme to work is that there is sufficient signal quality to extract at least one spectral component, i.e. the Larmor frequency of one type of spins inside the sample, from a single shot experiment. Next, a change of field inhomogeneity with temperature, which cannot be compensated in a straightforward fashion with the proposed method, will cause artifacts in the averaged spectrum. Under such conditions, more elaborate compensations would be required. We will revise the manuscript to mention this limitation of the proposed scheme.
- L308ff, Table II: the SI unit for concentration is either "mmol/l" or "mM". "mM/L" does not make sense.
Thanks for pointing out this sloppy mistake. We will correct it in the revised version of the manuscript.
RC3
General comments: This manuscript describes an interesting novel CMOS-based NMR platform. Fully integrated NMR-on-a-chip approaches are around for a long time already, starting of with the seminal work of Giovanni Boero and his coworkers at EPFL. The novelty of the current design is that it allows arbitrary phase control without compromising the timing of the pulses. Furthermore, the authors use the dual DDS system to implement a frequency-field lock to adapt the frequency of the excitation pulse to the field of a drifting magnet of e.g. a permanent magnet without thermal stabilization. It is an overall interesting manuscript that deserves publication.
The paper is well-written but very technical, I think the first part is somewhat beyond the imagination of much of the readership of “magnetic resonance” and would be more fitting in a more engineering focused journal. The experimental validation is convincing, however, and very accessible for the magnetic resonance community.
We thank the reviewer for his overall positive review of our manuscript and we will modify our paper to make it more accessible to the readership of “Magnetic Resonance”.
Specific comments: I have some remarks relating to the “temperature compensation”. What the system does is adjust the frequency of the excitation pulse to the variation of the magnetic field strength, so I would not call this temperature compensation. This is called a frequency-field lock and has been used already in the early days of NMR to acquire spectra in unstable magnets. Notably it has also been used to signal average NMR signals in ultra-high-field Bitter magnets which display temporal instabilities because of inlet cooling water temperature variations and ripple of the power supply. In those cases, the signal of a separate reference signal was used to track the field variations. In the current implementation the frequency is adjusted based on the frequency variations in the signal of the sample of interest. This precludes signal averaging for samples with very low signal intensity, as the SNR of a single scan needs to be high enough to allow the determination of the frequency shift due the magnet field drift. Furthermore, I think that signal averaging in a permanent magnet without any temperature regulation will not only suffer from drift of the magnetic field, but also there will be temporal variations of the homogeneity due to temperature gradients, so even with the frequency-field lock the resolution will deteriorate. If a separate reference signal would be acquired simultaneously this could be addressed by reference deconvolution. I feel these considerations should be discussed in the paper.
We fully agree with all of the reviewer’s statements. We will therefore revise the manuscript by properly mentioning the great similarity of the proposed approach with classical field locking. The reason why we proposed the “field-locking-based temperature compensation method”, which makes use of the NMR signal itself and zero padding instead of a dedicated lock channel to minimize complexity, is that it can be very easily added in the digital domain if the proposed 2-DDS-based frequency synthesizer is used, rendering it very convenient for CMOS-based NMR platforms utilizing permanent magnets.
We also fully agree that a simply tracking of the Larmor frequency is not enough to compensate for temperature induced changes of the magnetic field distribution over the region of interest. We will modify section 2.2 to discuss these points in greater detail in the revised version of the manuscript.
Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/mr-2022-4-AC1
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CC6: 'Reply on RC3', Jens Anders, 22 Mar 2022
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AC1: 'Comment on mr-2022-4', Qing Yang, 31 Mar 2022
Reply from the authors
Dear Editor, dear reviewers,
We would like to thank you for consideration of our manuscript for publication in Magnetic Resonance and the overall positive evaluation of our work. The detailed and insightful comments from all reviewers will help us to further improve the manuscript. Please find our point-to-point responses to individual comments below.
With best regards,
Qing Yang
On behalf of all co-authors
RC1
General comments: The manuscript describes the digital and analog electronics of a portable NMR spectrometer. It consists of a non-commercially available CMOS integrated circuit designed by the authors (TX/RX electronics with RF PA, RF LNA, mixers, IF amplifier, PLL) and of commercially available electronics (DDS chips, multifunction analog/digital board, switches, …). The operation of the spectrometer is demonstrated with 1H NMR experiments at 62 MHz and 15 MHz using home-made NMR probes consisting of 0.4 and 2 mm diameter solenoidal coils tuned (but not impedance matched) with capacitors. Liquid samples are placed in 0.3 and 1.3 mm outer diameter glass capillary, which tightly fit inside the solenoidal coils.
The most original contribution of this work is the detailed description of a TX/RX phase synchronization method and of a field drift correction method. Of course, the TX/RX phase synchronization and the field drift are problems which are “solved” in all commercially available NMR spectrometers. However, the merit of this manuscript lies in the fact that the method chosen and the hardware required to solve these problems are described in detail and, hence, can be useful to other groups which are working at the development of compact/portable NMR spectrometers. For this reason, I think that the manuscript deserves to be published.
We would like to thank the reviewer for his detailed and overall positive review of our manuscript.
Specific comments:
LINE 23: Typo: “high field homogeneity” instead of “high filed homogeneity”
Thank you for bringing this mistake to our attention. We will correct it in the revised version of the manuscript.
LINE 35: Typo: “Anders and Boero, 2008” instead of “Anders and Chiaramonte, 2008” (Chiaramonte is not author of that conference paper). Correct also LINE 350.
Thank you for bringing this mistake to our attention. We will correct it in the revised version of the manuscript.
LINE 47: At this point in the manuscript, it is not entirely clear the meaning of “phase-coherent detection of the NMR signal at non-zero IF”. A non-zero IF can be produced also with F_LO=F_TX but different from F_LARMOR. In this case there are no phase-coherence issues. Later in the manuscript (LINE 75) it is clear that “non-zero IF” means F_LO different from F_TX, which indeed can produce phase-coherence issues. It is not essential, but maybe I would try to make this clear already at this point of the manuscript.
We agree with the reviewer’s opinion and will modify this sentence accordingly. More specifically, we will clarify that the phase-coherence issues we refer to are produced by the fact that FLO is different from FTX.
LINE 71 (footnote): “Ignoring the inhomogeneity factor”. I guess the authors refer to the B1 inhomogeneity which would than produce a non-homogeneous flip angle in the sample (and, in particular, a flip angle which is not 90° everywhere in the sample). It is almost obvious but I would be more clear.
We will revise the manuscript by specifically stating that the inhomogeneity factor is caused by the B1 inhomogeneity and also the B0 inhomogeneity.
LINE 97: In the given reference (Anders et al., 2010) the impact of gain and phase mismatch on the NMR spectra distortions is not discussed/shown in details. I would suggest to search for references where this issue is discussed/shown more in details.
Thank you for bringing this mistake to your attention:
In the revised manuscript, we will use the following reference instead:
Rahman, A.-u.-., Iqbal., C. M., and Atia-tul, W.: Solving problems with NMR spectroscopy, Elsevier Academic Press, United Kingdom; San Diego, CA2016a.
In section 2.5 of this reference, there is a detailed discussion about how phase cycling can eliminate the imbalance between two channels.
LINE 107: I would write “NdFeB permanent magnet” instead of “Neodymium permanent magnet”. I would also add the value of its typical temperature coefficient (about 0.1%/K at room temperature).
We are happy to use the term “NdFeB permanent magnet” in the revised manuscript. In line 60 of the manuscript, we have mentioned the temperature coefficients of two common magnet materials.
LINE 132: If the scaling factor is selectable from 0.5 to 64, is it correct that the output frequency is between 5.7 MHz and 770 MHz?
This part was unfortunately not well explained in the original version of the manuscript. In fact, a scaling factor of 0.5 refers to the case where an off-chip LO is used instead of the on-chip PLL. This off-chip LO is divided by two to produce the required quadrature signals. In this case, the PA output frequency can in fact go down to DC. However, the usable (TX and RX) output operating frequency range of our platform is limited between 5MHz and 770MHz, where the lower limit is defined by an AC coupling capacitor in the receiver (between the LNA and the mixer.
LINE 138: I would specifically mention the gain of the LNA and the gain of the mixer (even if it is already mentioned the total RX gain and the gain of the VGA and the gain of the external filter).
Thank you for your comment. We will revise the manuscript accordingly.
LINE 142: I would mention which specific 130 nm BiCMOS technology has been used for the integrated circuit.
Thank you for your comment. We will revise the manuscript accordingly.
LINE 165: Figure 3b: I would add a scale bar (even if the dimensions are given in the caption).
Thank you for your comment. We will add the requested scale bar.
LINE 182: Typo (I guess): “…within a few microseconds” instead of “….with a few microseconds”
Thank you for your comment. We will correct this mistake.
LINE 230: Figure 5: I would add a scale bar (even if the coil dimensions are given in the text).
Thank you for your comment. We will add the requested scale bar.
LINE 232: It would be nice to show a picture of the custom made 0.36 T magnet and give some details of it.
Thank you for your comment. We will provide a more detailed description of the magnet.
LINE 233: I would specify on which volume you have an homogeneity of 20 ppm (I guess it is on the sample volume).
Thank you for your comment. The homogeneity is indeed calculated according to the signal bandwidth over the sample volume. We will state this more clearly in the revised manuscript.
LINE 257: I would specify the repetition time (i.e., the time distance between two consecutive measurements). At first sight, I would have performed many more consecutive measurements than 100. Do you expect any significant difference if 1000, 10000, or more measurements are taken? Which is the origin of the observed standard deviation of the phase? Is it just due to noise present in the signal which set a limit in the standard deviation of the phase or it is larger and due to a residual phase syncronization problem (it is probably possible to run a simple simulation to clarify this point)?
We thank the reviewer for raising this important question. The repetition time used was 1.5 s, which is more than five times of T1, to allow the magnetization to rebuild completely before the next scan. We also performed experiments with a larger number of consecutive measurements with correspondingly larger field/frequency shifts.
In all experiments shown in the manuscript, we synchronized the RX phase to TX phase at the beginning of the pulse, leading to a phase of the NMR signal, which, for a fixed excitation pulse length, varies with the TX frequency (for a fixed pulse length, the phase at the end of the pulse is different for different TX frequencies). We used the rising edge to give the on-chip PLL time to settle to the RX phase defined by DDS2. When using dead times after the pulse that are longer than the PLL settling time, we can also synchronize TX and RX phase at the falling edge of the pulse, removing the problem of phase uncertainty with changes in the TX frequency, allowing for larger number of averages. In the revised version of the manuscript, we will also include these measurements.
LINE 261: Table 1: It is not clear to me why it is relevant to show also the mean value of the phase. I would specify the number of measurements (10, I guess from the text) and the repetition time. As for the previous case, I would have performed many more consecutive measurements than 10. Do you expect any significant difference if 100, 1000, 10000, or more measurements are taken?
Thank you for your comment. We will remove the mean value from the table. Concerning the expectations for a larger number of measurements, please refer to our answer to your previous question.
LINE 287: Although it might be well known for most of the NMR specialists, I would explain in some more details why “…the predefined pulse length is no longer correct, resulting in distorted CPMG signals”.
Thank you for your comment. We will revise the manuscript accordingly.
LINE 295: Figure 9. I would specify the sample used for this measurement. Is it again sunflower oil? T2 is slightly shorter (77 ms) than the one in Figure 8 for sunflower oil (85 ms). As addition to Figure 9a, I would suggest also to add the CPMG “decay” obtained with the temperature induced field drift compensation scheme.
Thank you for your comment. The sample is the same sunflower oil. However, the experiments were conducted with almost one month in between, and the sample was not protected from light. We will therefore rerun both experiments with fresh sunflower oil and show these data in the revised version of the manuscript. In Fig. 9a, the correct attenuation line is obtained based on the temperature compensation scheme. We will modify the manuscript accordingly.
LINE 296: It is not clear to me if and why the measurements with heterogeneous samples are relevant to qualify the phase-synchronization and field-correction approach proposed in this paper. Of course, these are additional nice measurements that can be included in the article but their “relevance” for the main messages of the paper is not fully clear to me.
Thank you for your comment. We merely used the measurements on the heterogeneous samples as an example for 2D relaxation measurements since the duration of such experiments is typically much longer and a field-correct approach is almost mandatory.
LINE 308: Table II: I wonder if it make sense (and it is correct in metrology terms) to specify the T2 and T1 values with so many significant digits (I guess not but I’m not sure).
Thank you for your comment. We will revise the manuscript by stating only statistically relevant information (no digits after the decimal dot).
LINE 310: Figure 10: I would mention the Cu concentration in the figure caption or directly in the figure (even if these number are given in the text).
Thank you for this suggestion. We will add the Cu concentration in the figure caption.
LINE 325: I would add a few citations to the articles corresponding to “….our EPR-on-a-chip transceivers”.
Thank you for your suggestion. We will add more references to the revised manuscript.
"Aesthetic" comment: for my personal taste, there is an excessive use of footnotes. I would move all current footnotes (or the large majority of them) in the main text
Thank you for this “aesthetic” suggestion. We are happy to modify the manuscript accordingly.
RC2
General comments: The manuscript represents an important increment in the capabilities of integrated CMOS-based NMR systems. As the authors say, such systems, in combination with compact permanent magnets, have the potential to extend the usefulness of NMR spectroscopy, imaging, and relaxometry into domains where portability is a paramount concern. The paper gives a very useful and compact account of the relevant literature. It improves on the previous state of art in two key respects. On the one hand, an elegant solution is provided to allow phase-coherent signal acquisition at non-zero IF (with an IF significantly larger than the spectral window). This enhances sensitivity as it allows the receiver to operate above the influence of 1/f noise. On the other hand, a temperature/frequency compensation is built in that allows to compensate for magnetic field drifts, and corresponding shifts in Larmor frequency, due to temperature fluctuations.
The manuscript is well written, and the argument is supported by clear and carefully designed figures. It is a nice addition to the existing literature, and should be published in Magnetic Resonance.
We thank the reviewer for his overall positive review of our manuscript.
Specific comments:
L75ff. In the discussion of the phase control approach, the manuscript uses the term "off-resonance", if I interpret this correctly, to mean a frequency that is different from the excitation frequency, not from the Larmor frequency. I find this confusing, since "off-resonance", in the NMR context, typically refers to a situation where the excitation pulse frequency is different from the Larmor frequency. This then requires higher pulse power, etc. The paragraph should be reformulated to make this clear. It may be best to avoid the term "off-resonance" altogether, because of its inherent ambiguity (off resonance to what?).
We thank the reviewer for this important comment. In our notation, the term "off-resonance" refers to the fact that the excitation frequency is identical to the receiver local oscillator (LO) frequency but different from the Larmor frequency. In this case, there is no phase coherence problem since the excitation and the LO frequency are identical. The term "on-resonance" refers to a situation where the excitation frequency is identical to the Larmor frequency but different from the receiver LO frequency. In this case, phase coherence of consecutive measurements is not guaranteed and measures, such as the ones proposed in the manuscript, have to be taken to obtain phase coherence of signals from consecutive scans.
- L94. Typo: low-filed should be low-field
Thank you for bringing this mistake to our attention. We will correct it in the revised manuscript.
- L200, Figure 4. Would a plot of oscillator phase vs time (as opposed to amplitude vs time) make the argument more easily accessible to the reader?
Thank you for this excellent suggestion. We will include such a plot of phase vs time in the revised manuscript.
- L286: "[...], changes of the ..." This sentence is correct but awkward - reformulate?
Thank you for your comment. We will rewrite the sentence in the revised manuscript.
- L288: What is the mechanism that leads to the described artefacts in the CPMG data due to magnet drift? (This may be well known, in which case a reference would be helpful)
The artifacts in CPMG arise from the time-varying deviation of the excitation frequency from the Larmor frequency, resulting in time-varying off-resonance effects. Here, the proposed calibration scheme removes these artifacts. We will explain this effect in more detail in the revised manuscript.
- L290ff: In addition to rectifying temperature drift effects in CPMG measurements, would the approach also be capable of doing the same for spectral resolution, in a situation where signal averaging over an extended period of time is required? What would be the limitations? If this could be done reliably, it could significantly reduce the complexity of permanent-magnet NMR spectroscopy systems.
The first condition for the proposed scheme to work is that there is sufficient signal quality to extract at least one spectral component, i.e. the Larmor frequency of one type of spins inside the sample, from a single shot experiment. Next, a change of field inhomogeneity with temperature, which cannot be compensated in a straightforward fashion with the proposed method, will cause artifacts in the averaged spectrum. Under such conditions, more elaborate compensations would be required. We will revise the manuscript to mention this limitation of the proposed scheme.
- L308ff, Table II: the SI unit for concentration is either "mmol/l" or "mM". "mM/L" does not make sense.
Thanks for pointing out this sloppy mistake. We will correct it in the revised version of the manuscript.
RC3
General comments: This manuscript describes an interesting novel CMOS-based NMR platform. Fully integrated NMR-on-a-chip approaches are around for a long time already, starting of with the seminal work of Giovanni Boero and his coworkers at EPFL. The novelty of the current design is that it allows arbitrary phase control without compromising the timing of the pulses. Furthermore, the authors use the dual DDS system to implement a frequency-field lock to adapt the frequency of the excitation pulse to the field of a drifting magnet of e.g. a permanent magnet without thermal stabilization. It is an overall interesting manuscript that deserves publication.
The paper is well-written but very technical, I think the first part is somewhat beyond the imagination of much of the readership of “magnetic resonance” and would be more fitting in a more engineering focused journal. The experimental validation is convincing, however, and very accessible for the magnetic resonance community.
We thank the reviewer for his overall positive review of our manuscript and we will modify our paper to make it more accessible to the readership of “Magnetic Resonance”.
Specific comments: I have some remarks relating to the “temperature compensation”. What the system does is adjust the frequency of the excitation pulse to the variation of the magnetic field strength, so I would not call this temperature compensation. This is called a frequency-field lock and has been used already in the early days of NMR to acquire spectra in unstable magnets. Notably it has also been used to signal average NMR signals in ultra-high-field Bitter magnets which display temporal instabilities because of inlet cooling water temperature variations and ripple of the power supply. In those cases, the signal of a separate reference signal was used to track the field variations. In the current implementation the frequency is adjusted based on the frequency variations in the signal of the sample of interest. This precludes signal averaging for samples with very low signal intensity, as the SNR of a single scan needs to be high enough to allow the determination of the frequency shift due the magnet field drift. Furthermore, I think that signal averaging in a permanent magnet without any temperature regulation will not only suffer from drift of the magnetic field, but also there will be temporal variations of the homogeneity due to temperature gradients, so even with the frequency-field lock the resolution will deteriorate. If a separate reference signal would be acquired simultaneously this could be addressed by reference deconvolution. I feel these considerations should be discussed in the paper.
We fully agree with all of the reviewer’s statements. We will therefore revise the manuscript by properly mentioning the great similarity of the proposed approach with classical field locking. The reason why we proposed the “field-locking-based temperature compensation method”, which makes use of the NMR signal itself and zero padding instead of a dedicated lock channel to minimize complexity, is that it can be very easily added in the digital domain if the proposed 2-DDS-based frequency synthesizer is used, rendering it very convenient for CMOS-based NMR platforms utilizing permanent magnets.
We also fully agree that a simply tracking of the Larmor frequency is not enough to compensate for temperature induced changes of the magnetic field distribution over the region of interest. We will modify section 2.2 to discuss these points in greater detail in the revised version of the manuscript.
Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/mr-2022-4-AC1