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https://doi.org/10.5194/mr-6-15-2025
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Electron-spin decoherence in trityl radicals in the absence and presence of microwave irradiation
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- Final revised paper (published on 22 Jan 2025)
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This is a really interesting and well-written manuscript!
It convincingly demonstrates that methyl groups in trityl radicals are not innocent bystanders when it comes to decoherence. This insight has important practical implications. Also, I find the detailed investigation of dressed-spin decoherence dynamics illuminating.
The topological partitioning used in the pCCE (partial CCE) approach is interesting and appears to work well for the trityl methyl and methylene groups, but I wonder whether the partitioning can be automated for general structures. It reminds me somewhat of Kuprov's work on Liouville space reductions, see e.g. Fig.5 in his 2007 JMR paper https://doi.org/10.1016/j.jmr.2007.09.014. On a more general level, I would expect a partitioning or clustering criterion based on interaction energies to be more efficient and generalizable than a geometry-based one.
I am wondering whether it is possible to pinpoint the specific clusters responsible for the impressive decoherence slowdown of OX071 when going from H to D matrix (see Fig. 5). That could lead some additional valuable physical insight.
Regarding the methylene hyperfine couplings in OX071 and OX063 (mentioned in line 391), how strong is the isotropic contribution? Dihedral angle variations could modulate the isotropic part substantially.
In line 470 it is stated that it is unrealistic to apply CCE and pCCE to systems with much larger number of protons (compared to 36 presumably). My lab has run CCE on systems with up to about 1000 protons (see Canarie et al, JPCL 2020; Bahrenberg et al, MR 2022; Jahn et al, JPCL 2022, all cited in this manuscript; Jahn et al, JCP 2024 in press). We even have managed to run CCE-6, although only on our HPC facility.
Line 494: The vision that decoherence can be calculated from a structural model in a short amount of time has been realized with CCE-2 by Kanai et al in PNAS 2022 https://doi.org/10.1073/pnas.2121808119 on 12000 structures, see also the Python package PyCCE by Onizhuk et al.
Small comments:
136: It appears that instead of "factorize" it would be better to write "decompose". A product of 2^N two-level spaces would give 2^(2^N) states.
164: Just to clarify here: the coupling between the bystander spin and the two other nuclear spins is neglected here, correct?
330: The distinction between outer and inner methyl groups is not immediately clear from the figure.